Comments on: A Thousand Hall Monitors http://ypnblog.com/blog/2006/07/31/a-thousand-hall-monitors/ Tue, 02 Dec 2008 03:12:51 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: YPN! Launches Feedback Mechanism at MaxPower http://ypnblog.com/blog/2006/07/31/a-thousand-hall-monitors/#comment-456 YPN! Launches Feedback Mechanism at MaxPower Tue, 05 Sep 2006 06:31:54 +0000 http://ypnblog.com/blog/2006/07/31/a-thousand-hall-monitors/#comment-456 [...] Read straight from the source, A Thousand Hall Monitors. Now that they have an email, its up to us to make our voice heard. Think it will work? [...] […] Read straight from the source, A Thousand Hall Monitors. Now that they have an email, its up to us to make our voice heard. Think it will work? […]

]]> By: Administrator http://ypnblog.com/blog/2006/07/31/a-thousand-hall-monitors/#comment-411 Administrator Wed, 02 Aug 2006 15:32:57 +0000 http://ypnblog.com/blog/2006/07/31/a-thousand-hall-monitors/#comment-411 We understand your concerns, Pete, and thanks for writing. "Turning publishers on publishers" is not our intention. We won't tolerate "witch hunts" and other such antics within our network. Our intention is to facilitate greater communication between the publishing community -- in and out of the beta program -- and Yahoo! Publisher Network. We published the feedback link in response to public demand. The tone of the blog post announcing the link was meant to be tongue-in-cheek, designed to bring a little levity to the subject. - M2, blog editor We understand your concerns, Pete, and thanks for writing. “Turning publishers on publishers” is not our intention. We won’t tolerate “witch hunts” and other such antics within our network. Our intention is to facilitate greater communication between the publishing community — in and out of the beta program — and Yahoo! Publisher Network. We published the feedback link in response to public demand. The tone of the blog post announcing the link was meant to be tongue-in-cheek, designed to bring a little levity to the subject.

- M2, blog editor

]]> By: PetePrestipino http://ypnblog.com/blog/2006/07/31/a-thousand-hall-monitors/#comment-410 PetePrestipino Wed, 02 Aug 2006 13:32:17 +0000 http://ypnblog.com/blog/2006/07/31/a-thousand-hall-monitors/#comment-410 You're so right, ben_. I mean it's practically impossible that any visitor could get value from the content of the article you mentioned (even though there were a few good references - business.com for one, bigbook.com for another) as it probably is duplicated somewhere else - maybe even on Yahoo! Groups. And it certainly goes without saying that a visitor would not find any value in the advertising presented. I mean, who clicks on contextual ads anyway? Everybody knows that it's not the interest a website visitor shows in what's being offered through the ad but the search engine the visitor came from that matters to CPC advertisers. Give me a freakin' break. Just because a site or its content offends a publishers subjective sensibilities doesn't mean that an advertiser isn't going to want to pay for a quality visitor - something which an advertiser (and not a publisher) is only qualified to determine. Mr. Vice Principal, that's why turning publishers on publishers is a bad idea. You’re so right, ben_. I mean it’s practically impossible that any visitor could get value from the content of the article you mentioned (even though there were a few good references - business.com for one, bigbook.com for another) as it probably is duplicated somewhere else - maybe even on Yahoo! Groups. And it certainly goes without saying that a visitor would not find any value in the advertising presented. I mean, who clicks on contextual ads anyway? Everybody knows that it’s not the interest a website visitor shows in what’s being offered through the ad but the search engine the visitor came from that matters to CPC advertisers. Give me a freakin’ break. Just because a site or its content offends a publishers subjective sensibilities doesn’t mean that an advertiser isn’t going to want to pay for a quality visitor - something which an advertiser (and not a publisher) is only qualified to determine. Mr. Vice Principal, that’s why turning publishers on publishers is a bad idea.

]]> By: radiolistings http://ypnblog.com/blog/2006/07/31/a-thousand-hall-monitors/#comment-409 radiolistings Tue, 01 Aug 2006 22:50:26 +0000 http://ypnblog.com/blog/2006/07/31/a-thousand-hall-monitors/#comment-409 Does this mean there'll be more spaces available in the beta? Does this mean there’ll be more spaces available in the beta?

]]> By: ben_ http://ypnblog.com/blog/2006/07/31/a-thousand-hall-monitors/#comment-408 ben_ Tue, 01 Aug 2006 17:55:59 +0000 http://ypnblog.com/blog/2006/07/31/a-thousand-hall-monitors/#comment-408 Pete has one of those generic article directories you can pick up on ebay or piles of sites for $20 - $200, and plenty of other people do the same. For instance, <a href="http://webanetics.com/100/article.php?story=internet-business-directories" rel="nofollow">this article</a> on learning to use business directories. We head over to <a href="http://search.yahoo.com/" rel="nofollow">Yahoo</a> and throw in the first sentence in quotes and get 102 sites that also have that article. Since there's usually little or no unique content traffic is unlikely to arrive naturally so there's nobody to click on the ads which are the whole point of the exercise. It's kind of a "reverse scam", you buy the script thinking you'll make $x - $xx a day from your funky new "made for ads" site, but the only one that makes any money is the person you paid for the content. It's just a shame he's using AdSense and not YPN, otherwise I could report him for duplicate content mentioned in the <a href="http://ypnblog.com/blog/2006/07/19/what-not-to-do/" rel="nofollow">rules</a> :(. Pete has one of those generic article directories you can pick up on ebay or piles of sites for $20 - $200, and plenty of other people do the same.

For instance, this article on learning to use business directories. We head over to Yahoo and throw in the first sentence in quotes and get 102 sites that also have that article.

Since there’s usually little or no unique content traffic is unlikely to arrive naturally so there’s nobody to click on the ads which are the whole point of the exercise.

It’s kind of a “reverse scam”, you buy the script thinking you’ll make $x - $xx a day from your funky new “made for ads” site, but the only one that makes any money is the person you paid for the content.

It’s just a shame he’s using AdSense and not YPN, otherwise I could report him for duplicate content mentioned in the rules :(.

]]> By: Administrator http://ypnblog.com/blog/2006/07/31/a-thousand-hall-monitors/#comment-407 Administrator Tue, 01 Aug 2006 16:00:10 +0000 http://ypnblog.com/blog/2006/07/31/a-thousand-hall-monitors/#comment-407 At least you're into the spirit of the thing, Pete. -M2, blogman At least you’re into the spirit of the thing, Pete.

-M2, blogman

]]> By: PetePrestipino.info » YPN High School - Billy Stole My “low quality, high volume” Arbitraged Traffic http://ypnblog.com/blog/2006/07/31/a-thousand-hall-monitors/#comment-406 PetePrestipino.info » YPN High School - Billy Stole My “low quality, high volume” Arbitraged Traffic Tue, 01 Aug 2006 14:15:48 +0000 http://ypnblog.com/blog/2006/07/31/a-thousand-hall-monitors/#comment-406 [...] Yahoo is making it easier for its publisher network to “turn in” those not abiding by the rules. Now that’s a way to build community - threats. I can sort of see this playing out… “Mr. Vice Principal, that viagra-cialis site stole arbitraged traffic from that download-ringtone site. I just thought you’d like to know.” Nothing like a truly open environment for communicating. IMHO, something similar should be made available (if it’s not already - maybe in Q4) to advertisers - those that are footing the bill for all the fun that is this perpetual beta. [...] […] Yahoo is making it easier for its publisher network to “turn in” those not abiding by the rules. Now that’s a way to build community - threats. I can sort of see this playing out… “Mr. Vice Principal, that viagra-cialis site stole arbitraged traffic from that download-ringtone site. I just thought you’d like to know.” Nothing like a truly open environment for communicating. IMHO, something similar should be made available (if it’s not already - maybe in Q4) to advertisers - those that are footing the bill for all the fun that is this perpetual beta. […]

]]> By: ben_ http://ypnblog.com/blog/2006/07/31/a-thousand-hall-monitors/#comment-404 ben_ Tue, 01 Aug 2006 04:12:06 +0000 http://ypnblog.com/blog/2006/07/31/a-thousand-hall-monitors/#comment-404 I sent an email with 20 idiots' sites, can't wait to see some results *finally*. ;) I sent an email with 20 idiots’ sites, can’t wait to see some results *finally*. ;)

]]> By: ben_ http://ypnblog.com/blog/2006/07/31/a-thousand-hall-monitors/#comment-403 ben_ Tue, 01 Aug 2006 03:03:02 +0000 http://ypnblog.com/blog/2006/07/31/a-thousand-hall-monitors/#comment-403 About time :P Expect an email from me shortly. :) About time :P

Expect an email from me shortly. :)

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